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All the Cost of Discipleship


Luke 14:28-33

28 For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? 29 Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish.’ 31 Or what king, going out to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and deliberate whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? 32 And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks for terms of peace. 33 So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.

The highlighted words of the two small stories inside this parable seemed sensible to me.  The completion of projects, plans, desires, security, prestige and authority often depends on counting the cost and then throwing “all” your resources into making it a success.  What makes the “So therefore” of verse 33  so mysterious is that these Words of Jesus, “renounce all,” don’t seem to fit with the careful planning involved in the two illustrations that precede it.

Jesus did NOT say desiring something or counting the cost of getting it done is unwise or that deliberate and careful planning is a bad way to insure a good outcome that can overcome the odds against you.  In fact He details the negative outcomes of NOT counting the cost; mockery and being captured by an enemy.   “So therefore,” I am compelled to read and ponder what does that “renounce all” mean?  

Turns out I’m not the only one with that question. I read a very good paper by Pastor Tim Kelly[a] and because of his exhaustive referencing I learned Jesus didn’t always require the renouncing of “all” possessions even for His own mother or the disciples.  One helpful thing I learned was the verb that is translated “renounce,” apotassomai, can also mean bid farewell, delegate, appoint for, assign to, set aside or dismiss.  I looked back at that string of associated words I’d picked to consider as part of studying this parable — projects, plans, desires, security, prestige and authority and added [even] faith. It was then  I began to see they did have  connection to the wisdom of what Jesus was teaching His disciples. This parable wasn’t an option — they must “renounce all.”  What He did NOT say turned out to be very important  too.  Jesus was not preaching deprivation but that disciples must acknowledge that “all” things they have are already His to use.  This parable is not about personal deprivation at all but about a different reality for His disciples based on Isaiah 61:1-2.  “The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed me to bring good news to the poor; he has sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to those who are bound…”  

The cost that requires disciples to bid farewell, delegate, appoint for, assign to, set aside or dismiss everything as less valuable than Jesus is not deprivation but liberation for His disciples.  That’s “all.”

[a] Read Tim Kelly’s paper

Firsthand Opportunity

Acts 2:14-21 But Peter, standing with the eleven, lifted up his voice and addressed them: “Men of Judea and all who dwell in Jerusalem, let this be known to you, and give ear to my words. 15 For these people are not drunk, as you suppose, since it is only the third hour of the day.  16 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
[Acts 2:17-21 quoting from Joel 2:28-32] “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh; your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, and your young men shall see visions.  29 Even on the male and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit. 30 “And I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and columns of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the great and awesome day of the Lord comes. 32 And it shall come to pass that everyone who calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

“Let this be known to you” is exactly what I look for as I study because I believe the Holy Sprit teaches the timeless truth of all God’s promises given long before Acts 2 and long before today.[a]   I want to know what I believe is really mine, firsthand, not truth that someone else learned and I accepted. I write hoping you may find truth here, but if something I write causes you to question, I want you to be compelled to search firsthand too.

Joel prophesied that God said “And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh.  I wondered about that “all flesh” in verse 17/28 enough that I read it in 30+  versions.  Here are the words I found following the “all” in them…“flesh, mankind, everyone, people, humanity.  It doesn’t say all believers!  What if “all” is exactly what God meant!  I saw two promises here. The first was God’s Spirit in all as the promise of opportunity.  Please don’t be fooled by the inclusiveness of that “all.”  The first promise must lead to the second.  The second promise of salvation could only become reality because of the first and there was a requirement. Peter urges us to “give ear” to his quoting of Joel’s prophecy.  It’s our firsthand opportunity to wonder and ponder God’s truth because someone else’s truth is not going to save you.  Then I wondered about the “afterward.” 

Was “afterward” Jesus?  Was this prophecy the hint of a savior who would be destroyed, then restored to provide opportunity for all?  Did Joel see the last days as the promise of a level playing field created by God’s dedicated choice of His Spirit on all?”  The undetermined number of years of Kingdom life in the mysterious last days was going to be a seesaw of many good and bad events that would culminate in the “great and awesome day of the Lord” when the requirement would be fulfilled “it shall come to pass that everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
When Joel looked into the future, God didn’t tell him how many years would separate the different parts of the last days that he was describing. He saw the last days as all one piece. Some of what he saw was nearer to the beginning of the last days, and some was nearer to the end of the last days.[b]   

[a] John 16:12-13 I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 

[b] John Piper